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ARTICLE SUMMARY

Blair should go: opposition parties

The guilty verdict against the Metropolitan Police in the Jean Charles de Menezes case has led to instant calls for the resignation of Commissioner Sir Ian Blair from Conservatives and Liberal Democrats.

B LIAR RESIGNS

03.11.07, 3:38pm

The only way forward is for sir ian to resign. He has heaped shame on england on his watch, this little man seems disconected from reality. i wonder what his day consists of, breakfast with sherry, lunch with pims latter supper with dicks from the yard. the longer he hides in his bedroom wardrobe with the lights turned off the worse it is for everyone

• Posted by: mitchyboy • Report Comment

POST SCRIPT

02.11.07, 8:21pm

The Red Mayor of Londongrad has pleaded on radio for Blair not be sacked (Bless him).Sack him and appoint commissioner Gordon formerly of Gotham city to the post with chief Ohara as his second in command.

• Posted by: diddleydoo • Report Comment

BLAIR SHOULD GO.

02.11.07, 6:47pm

Not only because of this case,but also as anyone who lives in and reads London newspapers his catalogue of ill advised comments.Starting with the comments concerning the huntley case.He can have an opinion but a man in his position should not spout them with a microphone under his nose.As blair is a political appointment his PC credentials are obviuos which will cause some conflict as the big cheese in the Met.previous posters mention Gareth Peirce a well known civil rights lawyer in the Michael mansfield mould. So with all the anti-plod brigade rubbing their hands together over this case and advising the family,who does anyone think they will hire? someone who may be open to kidology or a rabid leftie.Oh and Lawrence was killed in Eltham and the alleged interference in the case centred on an investigating officer and his alleged connection to one of the suspects fathers.There is more to this and it is coppers should not do politics.

• Posted by: diddleydoo • Report Comment

A LOT MORE TO IT THAN BLAIR!

02.11.07, 3:20pm

There is a lot more people to blame, surely for the incompetant inexperienced state of the Police than Blair alone.
Is or was it down to Police?

That ex-Police Officer "Johncar" identifies and comments on several strange examples of the inefficency state of the police.
Understand from ex-officers that the current terrible decline in the Police started in the eighties and has gradually got worse and worse during the last ten or so years.

This current case is the second really serious case that reveals the problems caused mainly by the recruitment and promotion policies - the first terrible disgraceful case was the murder of Stephen Lawrence - when enquiry was made the result stated police were Racist!

Was this really the cause of the Lawrence affair?

Or was it to disguise the state that the force and Senior Officers had got into?

Lawrence was murdered in the Greenwich are a - a few years before Judge Buzzard following a number of violent Greenwich cases commented on politciains and their interference when he said:-

"This case gives the lie to those politicains who have hinted that police pull punchess when investigating attacks.... on coloureds..........That case and this present case give the lie to those politicians who, for motives which can only be guessed at......."

So in a few years the local police officers - no doubt some involved in both cases when fgood active investigators become Racist layabouts!
Or had the experience, efficiency of Senior Officers changed.

There is littled doubt at all that to identify the main/real causes enquiry needs to be made rregarding those who actually control the Police tand their activities - strangely enough it is the same Government Department that ha scaused the huge worry regarding Immigration (etc., etc.)

• Posted by: nowyouknow • Report Comment

AND: WHO WAS DE MENENEZ'S SOLICITOR?

02.11.07, 2:00pm

Gareth Peirce. It seems strange that a 'regular non descript illegal immigrant' would come to employ such a high profile solicitor with a track record of representing persons accused of terrorist related offences. I wonder who instructed her and who was paying!

Gareth Peirce (born c. 1940) is a British solicitor. She discarded her birth name of "Jean" when she was quite young, taking "Gareth" as her legal name. She is noted for taking on controversial cases, including high profile human rights issues. Her clients include the Birmingham Six, the Guildford Four, former MI5 operative David Shayler, Abu Qatada (who has been called 'Europe's Al-Qaeda Ambassador'), Judith Ward, the family of Jean Charles de Menezes, Mozzam Begg and Bisher Amin Khalil al-Rawi, a detainee at the Guantanamo Bay detainment camp

• Posted by: Johncar • Report Comment

THE FINE

02.11.07, 1:50pm

Who benefits? The largest group in Parliament are lawyers, they draft and pass the laws, so who do the think always wins in legal proceedings? The lawyers.

Re this case: Whilst I accept the police got this badly wrong, we have not had a number of answers, including: What was De Menenez doing in UK, he was illegally there. Who supplied the cocaine found in his blood, where did get his professionally forged passport and who paid for it, who did he work for, where did the funds to keep him come from, did he send money to his family if so where did that come from? If the bulky pockets claim was true, what was in the pockets. I am sure there are a lot more questions too.

How was he was shoot? When I was authorised to carry a gun in the Met Police, Detectives were career detectives. It was my decision whether to shoo (that always in effect meant shoot to kill as that is the only way one can stop a person from using a firearm or detonating a bomb). It was also my responsibly to justify what I did if I shot someone and if I had got it wrong, it was me who would have appeared in court.

Now they have rapid promotion oficers being called detectives but who have almost no CID experience. Now making literally life taking decisions from remote desks in headquarters . Rather like making a GP one day into a brain surgeon the next and wondering why their patients die.

• Posted by: Johncar • Report Comment

THE MET

02.11.07, 1:18pm

What I can't understand about the fine is, it comes out of Police Funds. (provided by the Treasury via the taxpayer) It is then collected by the Treasury (on behalf of the taxpayer). So nobody is penalised!

• Posted by: RichardMac • Report Comment